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ok, so I came to tribe.net because i had long been involved in an online discussion forum for my art (henna body art). Sadly, that place has been slowly taken over by its manager (not the legal owner) - a woman whose desire for power and need to be the Queen Bee of all information has led her to ban people from posting on "her" site (even if they are, as I was, paying advertisers).
For years my friends and I have watched in dismay as this woman consolidated her power, blacklisted and badmouthed those who she just didn't like, rejected attempts at resolution or mediation, and generally turned what has been advertised as a public educational resource into her own ego trip. In her last round of banishments I implored others to take a stand, as well as emailing this woman privately to ask for some sort of conflict resolution process. Both attempts were unsuccessful.
When I was finally banned (no reason given) people became quite outraged.
My question - perhaps rhetorical - for you all is this - how do you get people to speak up *in their own communities* when they see injustice? It's good and well to look at all the violence in the world, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine/Israel to name but a few - and throw up your hands saying, "there's nothing I can do."
But what about when it occurs in your own artistic community? Your school, your family, your place of work? I have long been the lone voice to stand up and speak out, and in most cases justice was eventually done, though I have been fired from a job for speaking out against a sexist boss.
The problem in this situation is that the woman has all kinds of spies working for her - and was even able to get her lawyer son to intimidate the staff of THIS site into removing discussions about this subject.
Any thoughts? Advice? Anyone know an internet lawyer who will chat for free?
peaceout
Anne Beltestad
www.nychenna.com
www.pacifichenna.com
For years my friends and I have watched in dismay as this woman consolidated her power, blacklisted and badmouthed those who she just didn't like, rejected attempts at resolution or mediation, and generally turned what has been advertised as a public educational resource into her own ego trip. In her last round of banishments I implored others to take a stand, as well as emailing this woman privately to ask for some sort of conflict resolution process. Both attempts were unsuccessful.
When I was finally banned (no reason given) people became quite outraged.
My question - perhaps rhetorical - for you all is this - how do you get people to speak up *in their own communities* when they see injustice? It's good and well to look at all the violence in the world, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine/Israel to name but a few - and throw up your hands saying, "there's nothing I can do."
But what about when it occurs in your own artistic community? Your school, your family, your place of work? I have long been the lone voice to stand up and speak out, and in most cases justice was eventually done, though I have been fired from a job for speaking out against a sexist boss.
The problem in this situation is that the woman has all kinds of spies working for her - and was even able to get her lawyer son to intimidate the staff of THIS site into removing discussions about this subject.
Any thoughts? Advice? Anyone know an internet lawyer who will chat for free?
peaceout
Anne Beltestad
www.nychenna.com
www.pacifichenna.com
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Re: speaking up when you see injustice
Wed, September 22, 2004 - 10:15 AMwrite what you want without fear. it is your own personal property. and always close with "thats my opinion"
but it really doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things cause karma is a bitch that always has pms.
watch this little funny clip about what this old woman has to say about assholes:
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Re: speaking up when you see injustice
Wed, September 22, 2004 - 10:54 PMViolet... that link is hilarious!!!!! LMFAO
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Re: speaking up when you see injustice
Wed, September 22, 2004 - 10:44 PMYou don't want to work for those assholes! You have the right to speak here on tribe as everyone else. So fuck them. Tell them it's all my fault!!! I don't give a FUCK!!!! You stand up and tell them "GO FUCK YOURSELF!" Sorry... It irritates me when people are treated like drones and there opinion is regulated. You are welcome here. Signed... Anarchist. -
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Re: speaking up when you see injustice
Thu, September 23, 2004 - 9:02 AMYou will be welcome here!
www.tribe.net/tribe/servl...TribeCard.vm -
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Re: speaking up when you see injustice
Sun, September 26, 2004 - 3:39 PMStart your own message board on tribe.net for henna stuffs. Sure it doesn't get rid of the bitchy ol' lady thang, but it sure would help those of you that can't stand her company.
As far as activating the public to take a stand...well, they kind-of have to want to. We, as Americans are so used to being dumbed down by marketing schemes, addictions and authority that we often lose our voices in our almost-comfort. People have to be inspired to act. Look at MLK and Ghandi and countless other social activists that motivated the masses. They just had the right ideas backed by a strong enough voice (metaphorically speaking...Ghandi was a very quiet man). Be a social activist. Motivate your people if they are willing, but they must be willing. Your not going to change a thing if you're constantly turning around to see if your supporters are still with you.
Good luck...damn the wo/man!!!
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