Fantasy, or prophecy?

topic posted Sun, April 17, 2005 - 1:09 PM by  Theodorus
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  • Re: Fantasy, or prophecy?

    Tue, April 19, 2005 - 2:41 AM
    I'll get back to you on this in about nine years.
    • Re: Fantasy, or prophecy?

      Wed, April 20, 2005 - 4:51 PM
      well consider this while you wait...

      Right now, Tribe is beta testing personalized profiles which offer blogs of your very own, sponsored by Google, and an Amazon wishlist, so your friends can know what you want

      Now, I'm not saying that one company is going to take over the world media is nine years, but when you consider things like the fact that under the new revisions proposed to the Patriot Act, law enforcement may be given the right to sieze your cellphone voicemail records how long is it gonna be before your spouse can use Googles new satellite map feature ( www.maps.google.com/maps ) to see if your car is at work.

      They can already check now, through Onstar ...
      • Re: Fantasy, or prophecy?

        Sat, April 23, 2005 - 4:57 PM
        It's actually amazing but not surprising how much the government and current administration is embezzling into our personal lives. The complacencies of infringing comformity makes me sick, and the amount of people clueless to the amount of control and lack of privacy disturbs me. Media in many ways rules this country as much as the government. The capitalism quickly growing into a fachist society has successfully controlled the masses through governmental owned media for many years. Money rules the people, while the government spends the money. A harsh reality which brings up yet another horrifying but not surprising thing based on the behavior of the current government. Soon privacy itself may be a bribery tool for interrogation, or a reward for "citizens" holding their tongue.
        • Re: Fantasy, or prophecy?

          Sat, April 23, 2005 - 6:03 PM
          Exactly, Ariel.

          What if there comes this big push to return to the repression of the 40's and 50's? Sure, one could argue that we as enlightened people would never let that happen, but didn't they say the same thing all the way through the roaring 20's before prohibition? Wasn't the "wild west" tamed through dramatic shifts in governmental legislative regulation?

          There is a new, conservative religious figure in place. Ratzinger has also had a history of membership in the Hitler Youth. Of all the candidates for papacy, they pick a former junior nazi???

          Government is pushing a conservative moral agenda, while granting themselves the right to remove your freedoms and invade your privacy in the name of national security.

          Companies now make it easier for you to be monitored (regulated) by offering you the opportunity to put your whole life up online, yourself ...

          and if/when the next senator McCarthy is ready to start applying some of our metadata profiles as a factor in compiling his subpoena list, how much of that information will we have already given, freely, to the next J. Edgar Hoover?

          Doubleplus Ungood
          • Re: Fantasy, or prophecy?

            Thu, May 5, 2005 - 2:39 PM
            i think there's a bit of both fantasy and sound projection here.

            but i think the part that gets left out is exactly the functioning of capitalism/imperialism and its need to use centralized media to influence how we think. its all institutionalized. and while there's some space for variety and even disagreement and debate, i think that the interests of the folks running the media shows is very much to keep in line with things that help the goals of imperialism. its such a benefit to them. and then there's all the corporate/government ties in the media....

            anyway, i guess im trying to say that yes, there's the facistic snooping, but i don't think imperialsim can affor to lose the manipulation of what they call THE NEWS - the lines they want us all to believe.

            i think something sorta like this could happen but there would always be that manipulation.

            but i also think that humans tend to try to centralize some of their information just for the sake of learning and getting shit right.

            so i could see some kind of imperialist free future where these tools might be very useful too keeping the world connected and learning from each other in a way that won't be possible for as long as imperialism exists.

            anyway, provocative and interesting. thanks.

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